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Christine's grave. Why so alone?

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Christine marries Raoul and has children. When she dies, she's buried in a Paris cemetery, in a grave of her own. I'm wondering why, basically.

As I remember it, her grave doesn't look as if it's any kind of family grave, or as if there would be room for her husband.

In the Madame Giry thread I wrote: Winnie suggested that Raoul had lost his sons in the war - that *is* possible, but where are they buried then? In a family grave somewhere? If so, why isn't Christine there too, in that case? Why the heck is Christine buried all alone in a plot of her own, instead of in some kind of family mausoleum? It isn't even as if her grave is prepared for anyone else to be buried next to her, it's a stand-alone.

Also, it's considerably smaller and less impressive than her father's marble mausoleum-type tomb. Couldn't the Chagny family, patrons of the Opera Populaire cough up more than that, when a plain violinist has such a spectacular final resting place.... sorry, I'm dragging this off-topic, I think there must be another thread for this particular discussion somewhere, will bump it if I find it. Nope, can't find one.... p'raps it's time to start one...


What are your thoughts about this?

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Re: A short guide for forum newbies

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I don't really understand what's gone on in the past, what is it now, four pages, and I don't think I ever will.
Buuuuuut I had to post a picture with an analysis I just did a minute ago and I figured I'd do it here.

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Note the above image. I came to the site and saw this a little while ago. It made me lose a considerable amount of faith. No less than six games were grouped together, and the majority of the posts were in The Chorus or the Maze of Mirrors. I starred the Lair one, which had potential for conversation.

I guess this is the epitome of n00b season, and what happens. I didn't understand it before but now I do.

Ah, well, happy summer!


And this is why I suggest we make a "omg wat de hek iz up wid da syt at theez tyms ov yeeer?" thread. Just for the heck of it.

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Re: A short guide for forum newbies

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A New Margarita wrote:
I don't really understand what's gone on in the past, what is it now, four pages, and I don't think I ever will.
Buuuuuut I had to post a picture with an analysis I just did a minute ago and I figured I'd do it here.

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Note the above image. I came to the site and saw this a little while ago. It made me lose a considerable amount of faith. No less than six games were grouped together, and the majority of the posts were in The Chorus or the Maze of Mirrors. I starred the Lair one, which had potential for conversation.

I guess this is the epitome of n00b season, and what happens. I didn't understand it before but now I do.

Ah, well, happy summer!


Happy summer to you too!

As the holiday season approaches our brains melt in the heat, we let our hair down and all hell breaks loose.

When it gets cooler again I'm sure we'll calm down and get serious again.

Occasional explosions of madness are good for you, though.

*Goes off to write review of the sixth time she saw Phantom in Copenhagen*

ETA: I don't know if you remember what the "home" page looked like before CeB moved the fics to a subforum. It was full of all the threads containing fics, making it look as if the site was a fan FICTION site only. And before that, when RPGs were allowed, it looked as if it was an RPG site only, because they were threads that were updated most frequently. To see any other threads at all you had to go into each forum.

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Re: The sex thread - don't be shy!

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I have a burning question to ask:

I heard from friends - guy friends...who are still virgins though, so it's not from experience - that it's more risky if we use two layers on condoms instead of one. The condoms would then rub against each other, making them easier to break (we all know what comes up after this).

Is this true?

I googled this, and found some sources (sex advice bureau type of places) that do warn against "double-bagging" condoms. So there may be something in what your friends say.

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LOL, to "tune in to Tokyo"... funny phrase, I hadn't heard that before.

Jedd the Jedi, if the breast fascination stems from childhood memories, then shouldn't women be equally interested in breasts? Both boys and girls are breastfed as babies.

I don't have an answer to this, it's one of those unanswered questions in life.

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Re: Andrew Lloyd Webbers Booms and Busts!

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I'm fairly sure that "Starlight Express" was the worstthing in the history of musical theater. ALW must have been on drugs when he wrote it. I mena, don't get me wrong, ALW is my HERO, but SE was a mistake.


I've never seen Starlight Express, but know that it involved rollerskates.

So in what way do you think it was bad?

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Re: The sex thread - don't be shy!

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^^Perhaps the fascination with nipples comes from the instinct all infants have to suckle their mother's breasts. Also, there are nerve endings at the nipples and some women can even have orgasms when their nipples are stimulated.

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Re: Of the characters, who is most likely to do_________?

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Christine.

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Most likely to be a groupie for Green Day?

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Re: Andrew Lloyd Webbers Booms and Busts!

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I agree with that about Starlight, its only saving grace is the set. It's pointless, like Cats, some good songs don't get me wrong when sung or played on their own, but all together in a show, terrible. Both are on at the moment, a doulbe whammy of torture.

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Re: Love Never Dies - ALW's Sequel

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Thanks, Bric.

*runs off to hide in a corner*

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Re: Love Never Dies - ALW's Sequel

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ALW announces the casting of the two leads.


http://baltimore.broadwayworld.com/ar ... _LOVE_NEVER_DIES_20090703]BROADWAYWORLD.COM[/url]

Friday, July 3, 2009; Posted: 05:07 PM - by BWW News Desk

The Daily Mail's Baz Bamigboye is reporting that Andrew Lloyd Webber has confirmed the much rumored news that soprano Sierra Boggess and baritone Ramin Karimloo will star in the world premiere in London of his "Phantom" sequel, Love Never Dies. 

Earlier casting rumors indicated that Andrew Lloyd Webber wanted Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess, who had developed the roles of the Phantom and his protegee in several of the various 'Love Never Dies' workshops, to originate the roles in London. They will perform the roles for the upcoming CD of the sequel. Karimloo is the current Phantom in London, and Boggess was Christine in the 'PHANTOM' production in Las Vegas and was most recently Ariel in Broadway's The Little Mermaid.

The role of The Phantom of the Opera was created by musical theatre superstar Michael Crawford and Christine Daae was shaped and written for her original portrayer, Sarah Brightman.

Lloyd Webber explained to Bamigboye that "It's the first time that the leads on an album of mine have gone on to open in the actual stage show. When Sierra and Ramin open in London, Broadway will want to see the original stars, so you can't say to London: "OK, listen to them for two weeks and then New York gets them." He added, "I personally feel that what will now happen is that Sierra and Ramin will open in London early next year and then go to New York in the autumn of 2010. I think once the album comes out, hopefully before Christmas, a lot of singers will come out of the woodwork and we'll find new Christines and Phantoms for the other productions."

Lloyd Webber also revealed to Bamigboye that the 'Phantom' sequel will open at the Adelphi Theatre 'early next year', adding that 'if it's any later, I'll go crazy!'

The Mail's Baz Bamigboye reported a number of weeks ago that THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA sequel was re-evaluating schedules for the debut at the Adelphi in London and the, as of yet, undisclosed theatres where the production will "haunt" in Toronto, New York and the Far East. It has now been learned that only London will open first, with the others to follow at later dates not yet released.

The original plan was for the musical to open in the West End in either late October or early November of this year. Bamiboye's description of the music for 'Love Never Dies' gives one hope for something romantic and thrilling, "From what I've heard, it sounds like the best work Andrew has produced in decades. I confess, I didn't know he still had it in him - it's a score of high passion, full of longing and regret". To read the full article in the UK Daily Mail click here.

The show is set on Coney Island, New York, around 1907 - ten years on from the final actions in Phantom. The original THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA is still happily running, at Her Majesty's, London, 23 years after opening. 

A recent Equity audition casting breakdown gives a bit more insight into how the characters of the original musical have changed nearly ten years after the sad and passionate events of "Phantom".

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Re: the ANTI-twilight thread

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Like paragraphs of mindless drabble, taking out those huge words that appear with no explanation...
I mean, yeah, she's supposed to feel. But you don't need to go on, and on about it.


AND I'M REMOVING THE WORD GRIMACED. OMG

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Re: "Spring Awakening" critiques here!

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Hm, I've been looking for a Spring Awakening thread to pop up on here. I saw it on Broadway last September.

I went in with rather high expectations, since everyone who had seen it made at least a five minute speech about how great it was. But by the end of the show I failed to see why it was so great. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't amazing.

First of all, the music. I have nothing against rock-musicals, or musicals with more "modern" style tunes. I loved The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee, and Rent remains one of my all-time favorites. However, this rock music just seemed sort of...eh. Some of the songs reminded me of Green Day, some of that "alternative" style you get, and some were actually okay. (I suppose this could be expected, seeing as Broadway is a reflection of the music of today.) I did find some of them very humourous, but really the songs weren't that catchy and not all that interesting.

Next, the subject of it. I know they were trying to make a statement with the risque storyline and songs, but it just came out as cliche. The first act was basically leading up to them saying "Look! People having sex onstage! Be shocked at first, but then think about how not exposing people to sex can harm them which we will show you in the next act!" It felt almost preachy, whereas I like my musicals (and other forms of theatre) to be more left up to interpretation of the audience. Not to digress, but in Phantom it is so expected for the deformed man to get his happy ending (Christine) but then he doesn't, and it makes you really think, and that ending can be thought of as happy or sad.

That leads me to my next point: the ending of Spring Awakening. I really didn't think it was so awful at first. In fact, I rather liked the first act. Halfway through the second act, I found myself a little bored and by the end I was wishing they would get to the point a little faster. Then, it all culminates to ghosts coming back and telling that kid not to kill himself? This particularly bothered me, because the entire show had a very "real" feeling to it, as it tried to make the idea of sex and love more "real" to the children. And then at the end you have ghosts running around out of the blue. It was almost as if the writers were saying "Shit shit shit! How do we end it? Girl's dead, her friend's dead, boy's about to kill himself...he has to stop and realize stuff...none of the adults would understand or be there, we've already established that, and there's no way he can have this epiphany on his own...I know! They can come back and tell him! As ghosts! Boo, scary! But not scary ones, good ones, like the Ghost of Christmas Past!" Musical ends with a sorrowful yet hopeful "Song of Purple Summer."

By the end of the night, the whole thing reminded me of Rent, without the emotional impact and provocative messages Rent provided. And that's my eclectic yet truthful review.

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Re: ABC Game!

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F is for fire when the opera burns down and when the marksman tries to shoot erik1

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1. What would be the first thing you did if you suddenly became President of your country?

Improve the education of our youth. I would make classes on CPR, manners, and world religions mandatory in high schools. The world religions classes would be completely objective!

2. What was/is your favorite class in School/High School/ College?

Orchestra.

3. How do you feel at the moment?

Tired.

4. What's your average body temperature?

Around 98 degrees fahrenheit.

5. Are you a neat freak, or a slob? Or are you in-between?

I am more slobby but sometimes a neat freak!


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1. Have you ever owned a horse?

2. Do you like spiders?

3. Do you like snakes?

4. Have you ever jet skied?

5. Have you ever been to myrtle beach?

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Re: Andrew Lloyd Webbers Booms and Busts!
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I'm fairly sure that "Starlight Express" was the worstthing in the history of musical theater. ALW must have been on drugs when he wrote it. I mena, don't get me wrong, ALW is my HERO, but SE was a mistake.

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THE BEATLES!!!!!!!

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Re: The sex thread - don't be shy!
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Why do guys feel the need to play with nipples so much? There is SO MUCH MORE a guy could do than "tune into tokyo." Just wondering what the fascination is when there are other things to be done.

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Re: Feelin' good? want to brag without the guilt? HERE YA GO!
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Bragging without the guilt? sounds great to me!

I was the best singer in my high school. In fact, I just sang at graduation a few weeks ago. Sorry if that sounds pigheaded, but it's true. I won access broadway two years in a row. First Place, Platinum awards.

That felt good.

Thanks!

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Re: Of the characters, who is most likely to do_________?

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I say meg because she seems really perky.

most likely to work at hot topic???

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"Spring Awakening" critiques here!
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Okay, so as many of you may know, Spring Awakening clsoed in January 2009. =( The tour, however, is still going strong! I was lucky enough to see them in Baltimore, MD twice, and they were AMAZING! If you have seen/ want to see the show, comment here!

On the down side:

It is DEFINITELY a show for mature audiences, though. There is strong language, teenage smoking, and brief nudity.

On the UP side:

The music is AMAZING! The central themes are relatable and real, which is becoming increasingly difficult to find in the world of theater due to the "disneyesque" nature of most new shows. AND!!!!! you get to see some great talent (Kyle Riabko, Christy Altomare, Blake Bashoff, etc...) =)This show really shows the true human nature and what can happen when that nature becomes disrupted.

Any stories about the show? Post them here!

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Re: Funny stories from the Stage Show? Share them here!!
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When I saw the show in NYC, the candelier fall was nowhere near what it should be-in fact, it was more of a soft, floating, drift. The actors all just kind of stood there, looking at each other, and the entire scene looked like it was in slow-motion. Hilarious!

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Re: Love Never Dies - ALW's Sequel
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The only things I have heard are that Sierra Boggess (Christine, Las Vegas; Ariel, TLM) is the fore runner to play Christine and that the show will be opening in four cities simutaneously. Other than that, though, nothing. =(

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Re: The Anxiety Thread! WOO!

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Okay, I'll vent. I'm so anxious I keep nearly inducing panic attacks over absolutely everything right now.

In two months I have to have my mother's old car repaired, passing emissions, and then cheat the DMV to have it registered in my name.

In a month and a half I have to pay a fine and go to court to keep my license from getting suspended because I got pulled over for a busted tail-light, but had forgotten to put the new insurance card in the car.

In a month have a new place to live for myself and my underage, adoptive sister, because we can't afford to stay in our home. It's my responsibility to find a place for us that we can afford while I'm in college and she's in high school, to get utilities and such turned on and furniture moved, to give the notice and clean out where we live now so we get our deposit back... Oh, and apparently it's also now my responsibility to find a new home for my alcoholic aunt and her room-mate, because it was *my* decision to leave the house, and they are incapable of taking initiative or taking care of themselves.

I have to do all this so suddenly because my mother, who was my only living relative not mentally-ill or completely rippled by alcoholism and drug abuse, died last month. I've always had her to fall back on or to go to for life advice, and now, on top of everything else, my safety net is gone.

Oh... and in three days I'm leaving on a three-week-long trip to London for school, which I have to somehow find a way to enjoy despite everything else.

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Re: Dear Abby, I need relationship advice!!!

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Thanks. That helps! I really don't like talking on the phone (with anyone, not just him) but I will have to suck it up in the name of love lol.

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Never heard of them. Sorry!

I predict the next person has 'going to the beach' written on their 'what to do this summer' list.

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